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11 years 11 months ago #145

Here is another interesting one referencing Sour Porter, aged maybe?

156 1 Oct. 1857 – 16 May 1862
Ledger listing various accounts for James J. Murphy & Co. brewery. There is a mss index at front under headings – Stock; Malt; Hops; [Sour] porter; [insurance] J & WJ Murphy; Edward Lane; Charges; Ladys Well Brewery; Buildings & Utensils; Coals etc.; [Cussen]; Houses & Licences; Interest; and Balance Sheet. Opposite this page is mss list of names of individuals and amounts of money.

An one that may list malts used like amber

170 30 Sept. 1886 – 14 Nov. 1891
Hardback cloth and leather “Receipts and Deliveries” book for Messrs. James J. Murphy & Co. Ltd., Lady‟s Well Brewery, Cork. Detail information under headings – RECEIPTS; Date; Malt, Brls.; Black, Stones; Amber, Brls., qrs.; lbs.; Hops, lbs.; DELIVERIES; Date; No. of Brewings; Malt, Bins &c; Brls.; Black, Stones; Amber, Brls.; qrs.; lbs; Hops; and Total. Stuck inside the book are mss lists on “Goods consumed since…” covering up to 30th September 1886 and 1887 (30th Sept. 1887 & 30th Sept. 1888). Printed by Purcell and Company, 124 Patrick Street and Lavitts Quay, Cork, Register No. 12374, Date 6/4/87.

An by 14 Nov. 1891 – 21 Sept. 1895 no more list of amber in the malt section, just pale and black malt

Roasted barley came late it would appear, many along the same time as Guinness

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11 years 11 months ago #146

Roasted barley came late it would appear, many along the same time as Guinness[/quote:2pscgems]

it would appear to happen at the 5 Sept. 1936 – 6 April 1957


Hardback “RECEIPTS/DELIVERIES” book for Messrs. James J. Murphy & Co. Ltd., Lady‟s Well Brewery, Cork. Details information under headings – RECEIPTS, Date Week ending; DESCRIPTION OF MALTS AND HOPS RECEIVED; No. of Bins; PALE MALTS, Brls.; BLACK MALTS, Stones; HOPS, Weeks Receipts Lbs., Total Lbs. Received; DELIVERIES HOPS; Date; No. of Brewing; PALE MALTS, Brls, NAME, No. of Bins; BLACK MALTS, Stones, Lbs (x6, with MSS names Leney, Agnew, Oregans, [Hallerrans], et al); TOTALS. Includes MSS list from the Malt Department re-return of stock, and the amount of hops, [b:2pscgems]roasted barley [/b:2pscgems]and carrageen moss in stock (1956).

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11 years 11 months ago #147

Sour Porter might be returns from the Public houses , as it's in that list of things money was spent on .

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11 years 11 months ago #148

Sour Porter might be returns from the Public houses , as it's in that list of things money was spent on .[/quote:32hkz0kh]

yea true, apparently Guinness used upto 20% returns and run off

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11 years 11 months ago #149

Sour Porter might be returns from the Public houses , as it's in that list of things money was spent on .[/quote:3bh8j99p]

its listen under the insurance, insurance against bad porter or losing lost of aged porter very interesting

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11 years 11 months ago #150

Some interesting events listed


“Last time of using Sugar” (9th May 1889)

“First XX Stout” (26th March 1889);

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